Can anyone tell me if this the 440 or the 383 block

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Can anyone tell me if this the 440 or the 383 block

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Have a not too good photo to share - the engine is lying in Chertsey, London
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Not sure if you are in touch with the owner, or close to the engine, but…. That plate on the valve cover towards the transmission would tell you…

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I have already asked him to lightly clean the dirt/grime/oil off the plate, and he said he could not clean up enough to take a photo
Maybe it needs something stronger like brake cleaner or something ??
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No need to see the plate. It is a 440 for sure. It has the RB platform in front of the valley pan. The engine number will be on there also. :)
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That also looks like a Thermoquad so I agree 440 as I dont think they ever fitted a Thermoquad to the 383.
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slotcarone wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:07 am It has the RB platform in front of the valley pan.
That's also on the 383 Mike also with the engine number on it, but I believe it's a 440 too just because of the Thermoquad as Steve Says..but I do have a Thermoquad fitted to my 383..but done by myself obviously :P
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Grant wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:59 pm
slotcarone wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:07 am It has the RB platform in front of the valley pan.
That's also on the 383 Mike also with the engine number on it, but I believe it's a 440 too just because of the Thermoquad as Steve Says..but I do have a Thermoquad fitted to my 383..but done by myself obviously :P
Not true my friend. What I am referring to is the raised up part of the block that appears in this picture just below the distributor hold down clamp. The 383 is a 'B' block and the 440 is a 'RB block and has that rectangular raised up area on the block with the engine numbers on it. The 383 does not have this raised up area on the block. :)
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slotcarone wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:45 pm
Grant wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:59 pm
slotcarone wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:07 am It has the RB platform in front of the valley pan.
That's also on the 383 Mike also with the engine number on it, but I believe it's a 440 too just because of the Thermoquad as Steve Says..but I do have a Thermoquad fitted to my 383..but done by myself obviously :P
Not true my friend. What I am referring to is the raised up part of the block that appears in this picture just below the distributor hold down clamp. The 383 is a 'B' block and the 440 is a 'RB block and has that rectangular raised up area on the block with the engine numbers on it. The 383 does not have this raised up area on the block. :)
Yes, you are correct Mike :wink: , the 383 does have the raised block too with the engine number on, but, it is slightly over more under where the AC bracket is, I have never looked and compared them both untill just now when you said it and there is a difference in where the raised pad is on both..Another school day for me and many thanks to you for that Mike :wink:
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Also the lug on the gearbox bell housing for kickdown linkage with the bellcrank is missing, the 440s had a one piece kickdown rod so didn't need it.
I hope it's not been sat too long in that field.
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